I must admit that I started using this phrase to replace “Please let me know,” which I was abusing and overusing. Be courteous in your email, and you’ll get better results. If you can get a grammar and spelling checker that corrects messages written in English, it will help you very much. The misuse of the word unconsious is at least as anoying as the phrase “Please advise”. I feel much better now, realizing that I am not alone! Before sending I did a quick Google search on the phrase and found this page. Let me introduce you to this definition of “unconscious”: “occurring in the absence of conscious awareness or thought.”. My daughter recently applied to several universities. Hi, Rodrigo. I am glad to be helpful. Unless the phrase inhibits communication, why not try to accept and even enjoy it? I am truly trying to avoid it, both because I think it can come off rudely and because it is not proper grammar. I’m not sure if I’m offended because of the redundancy or because I will of course consider the information you just gave me. . On the other hand, your “I advise taking a cab,” is perfect. Thanks for the article. Let’s see if you get a response to your question. This is too funny! It’s fine to say “Please advise me about the software.” You can also say “Please help me with the software” and “I would appreciate your advice on the software.”. So I rushed like crazy to get dressed, packed and down to the cab as fast as possible. Pablo, thank you for your enlightening example. .”, Native speakers might be more likely to write “Please advise me if you have additional concerns.”, I was composing an email message, in the closing used the phrase. Great article. I was always under the impression that “Please advise” was a proper way of asking for a response. Perhaps I should not be so worried about what others will think of my writing, or at least I can find comfort in the fact that I am using correct grammar- even if I am all alone in this instance! To say I “googled” it is just a catchy term/phrase and I doubt anyone is going to discontinue the usuage of it where it’s deemed appropriate or not. I apologize for not responding to your very thoughtful comment. “Lately a lot of people have been signing work e-mails with “please advise” instead of “thanks” or “sincerely”. Your arguments and example make sense. Harley, I am glad you found this blog post helpful. That’s certainly more than to just, “tell.”. Then 6 months later, my boss told me the other way, saying that it should be “Please adviCe” not “advise”. I found it through googling “please advise”. I can think of no way to convey the same amount of information with an equal economy of words. This phrase is being abused making it sound like it was computer-generated or like a standard template. How to politely ask a person(manager, boss etc. I feel that it’s entirely wrong as a sentence and I am doubting the credibility of this institution. I was like “OH! I advocate clear and concise language, especially in emails. We’re generally much less pretentious (at least in the sciences). For example, can you imagine saying to your spouse “please advise me what’s for dinner tonight”? Yes, we can hope, David, and spread the word. –I would appreciate your ideas on . Please let me know when it would be convenient for us to speak by phone. You can give us a call, or we can chat virtually. “Please advise” as an email ending. Read more comments. As I said earlier, “Please advise” has become an unconscious habit that communicates very little. They used "Please advise" in their opening sentences, their closing sentences, and sometimes in the middle, like this: Please advise of shipping status.Please advise what happened with the delivery. What I dislike about the phrase is, not only how often it gets used, but how often it gets misused. I was never in the habit of using it and now that I see how people feel about it, I will NEVER get in the habit of using it. I’m glad I stumbled upon this page! I do not have time for egos. I believe it is a nice way of asking for needed advice without typing a lot. I believe the discussion above answers your question. If so, I agree. A word or phrase used to refer to the second person formal “usted” by their conjugation or implied context (e.g. I find that the misused “advise” is often to be found in emails alongside a misuse of the reflexive pronoun (“please advise myself”). (“I’ll reply when I return to the office on [date].”) At your earliest convenience I agree that in some circumstances “Please advise” can communicate concisely and clearly. question – what about this opening – “Thanks to be advised we have potential new client coming by (again) with their President. The context of this would be asking someone a question IE: you need advise from the recipient. I am getting confused with too much on offer. For me, the rule of thumb would be not to use any word or phrase that you wouldn’t use outside of an office situation. If you receive several hundred emails per day, most of which are just informational, which can be properly read later, you need a clear marker for “attention, your action is required”, and “Please advise” at the end of the email is exactly that. I should have known better to do more research before using it! Please advise. That is why one of the most important essential qualities of true leadership is: #self-awareness You would use "time convenient for you" if you want to stress on the addressee's convenience or "a convenient time" if you want to talk about a time convenient to both of you. Use whatever sounds natural. All these days I was thinking that Please advise means please get back to me with your suggested answer which looked polite. Ha Ha! Grammar is nothing but convention anyway and in this respect we create the meaning through the habit. They don’t use it all the time, but only when seeking help or resolution to some kind of problem I created. 2. There are so many things we shorten with email or phrases we use which we don’t use elsewhere. If you are looking for other blogs to read, you can find some under “Writing Resources” along the left side of this blog. Please let me know when it would be convenient for me to call you. Hey Lynn, please advise . “Please advise of the shipping date” is not about giving advice. However, I suspect my colleagues will think that *I* am the one who does not understand normal business communication if I write, “Please advise me of the status,” since no one ever adds the direct object to this phrase! Bi-weekly content curated by John Spence himself. It’s like my leaving the kitchen drawers open–not a terrible, serious problem. Please note that 1-4 phrases are more formal than phrases 5 & 6. Set a time that is convenient for you. Hello, Francisco. The RFI is question or confirmation sent to the architect for clarification, elaboration, direction, confirmation, etc. I thought it was weird that the admin would be the one to deliver this message to me. If the subject of the email is clear and the sender really does want advice regarding that subject than I say go ahead and use “Please advise”. 5.Are you available/free on Friday, let’s say** 9 a.m.? . Hi, Enzo. Also, “Please clarify me with” is not correct idiomatic English, at least not in the US. You’ve just saved me from starting the habit of using “Please advise” without an object. BusinessWritingBlog has been helping you become a business writing expert since 2005. 4. We’ll work with you, your doctor, and your insurance company to help you get the care you need. "What time would you like me to have me at work?" Don’t allow yourself to be convenient for someone because you don’t deserve someone who only comes around when they’re lonely – you deserve someone who cherishes every moment with you. If I were to follow with “Please advise us of the missing page”, it may be construed as criticism, thereby triggering an ego. advise on legal issues. Can I just say, I hope that “Please Advise” becomes banned from email jargon…. You'll find these meals quick and convenient to prepare. E-mail is horrible enough already; adding a potential hostility hurdle doesn’t help! Also can you advise what a studio suite consists of please… Lately, I have recieved numerous emails that end with "please advise". Someone must be advised. I learned the phrase from working at a law firm where correspondence to attorneys needed to be short, sweet and to the point. Many thanks I don’t see “Please advise” as efficient in any way but its brevity. It may suggest that your manager has not been clear. . in order modify the contract/bid documents the contractor/subcontractor have bid or are bidding. My supervisor uses it in almost every email request. You probably will want to write something like “Please respond with an updated delivery date.” Using a complete sentence is more likely to get you the response you want. The email itself should designate whether or not a response is needed. I think of the statement as rude and irritating. Could somebody please advise me as to how I might do this. In any case, “Please advise/confirm/clarify” all express a level of professionalism when requesting a formal response just by how it sounds. It advises to use, “advice,” instead of, “advise.”, I see, “please advice,” in emails all the time. There it is not a popular verb! Thanks for reading my little rant:-). suitable/convenient/fine for you? People would use it as a phony-polite way of saying “you do this for me now.” Example: “My mouse is broken. We are arriving 11th August at 11.25am. With that said, by not personalizing “Please advise”, the writer is required to provide enough information for the architect or engineer to deduce what is being requested. This is an awesome post. If you have already asked for something, why not close with this: I work in the construction industry and “Please advise” is a common term used when writing an RFI (Request for Information). BOOOM!!! I always knew the phrase felt wrong every time I read it in emails, but now it’s good to know exactly why, grammatically. Please also let us know of any allergies, dietary requirements, or medical conditions you have that you would like your host family to be informed of. Am I wrong to judge them this way? I looked it up in the Webster’s Dictionary. Others use advise only in situations that involve advice (as in the doctor’s advice on supplements and my advice on eliminating the angry tone). b. sírvanse indicar. I think it sounds better than than switching that out with. 2. Thanks very much for this article. Please advice myself on how to right a formal bizness letter. Marco, I am all for googling, and I use google as a verb. It would have read in a much more pleasant manner had they simply added a “me to the time frame of this project” on the end. If you have a question, please ask him! . Using the word “advise” for “tell” is one of my pet hates – it’s just so pompous and pretentious! I will update this blog post to clarify and correct what I meant. ; Please advise Preceding contribs ) 18 : 48, 8 August 2007 In early use, the phrase was simply a polite (please) request for the listener or reader to provide some information (advise), as in “please advise your decision” or “please advise promptly of change of address.”Then and now, please advise is commonly used in legal, commercial, and other official documents. "Embedding Advise into our daily practice operation has helped us achieve 2-3x our expected Medicare growth targets. Thank you Lynn. But would “please advise” be clear communication for a pilot? I hate miscommunication and, to avoid it where possible, never truncate sentences that can be easily misinterpreted. I hope you read LisaMarie’s response to you. I appreciate your encouragement:-). It simply makes sense to me, despite any efforts by Google to control the use of its name. Google's free service instantly translates words, phrases, and web pages between English and over 100 other languages. The only time this habit has gotten me in trouble is when I used it during a class I was teaching at Microsoft. The opening does not make sense to me. I’ve been on the road for about two weeks and during my trip here are just a few of the things that people so kindly did for my convenience…. Hi, LisaMarie. It lets the reader know that I need a response to whatever concern has been laid out in the e-mail. –I would appreciate your advice on . Some grammar experts say that “Please advise” must have an object after the phrase because advise is a transitive verb. In my position in Customer Service, I have sent emails explaining the status of an open issue and clearly denoting a response is needed from my customer within the body of the email, only to receive a one-word reply of “Thanks.” My customers are busy and often do not take the time to think through each email they receive. Could somebody please advise me as to how I might do this. What might your company be doing for your customer’s “convenience” that is not actually convenient for them at all? Thank you for reminding us that there is nothing wrong with using “Please advise” appropriately and in moderation. Thanks for sharing your wonderful example. Our local shop has very convenient opening hours. Since you where usually taking these instructions from someone of higher rank and politeness was an important part of society and especially in military culture when dealing with an officer, the please got prepended. However, when we corresponded with other departments, I spotted mistakes. "Could you give me a time when I should be at work?" Here’s some advice: Stop signing your e-mails “please advise.” You sound like an idiot. I am definitely switching up the vocab. Hi Lynn, just found your blog when I google on when to use “advise” and “advice” and I must say this is a really interesting article. For example, in the sentence I gave in the paragraph above, you might also write “Please reply . ; Can you please advise where I said that in my comments above? Look for your "Please advise" or other habitual expressions, and get rid of them. “Revert” does not make sense for “reply” in American English. You didn’t attack anyone. Hello, UR Kidding. Sorry! * It would be great if you could kindly inform me about a place and time for our meeting as per your convenience. I must admit that I am one of those having been signing of emails with “Appreciate your advise (something, such as ‘on your time availability’. Please advise. Somehow the phrase has been maligned in this ongoing conversation. Dan Palmer, I am not a fan of “please advise” at all, but I do have to respectfully disagree with your comment. I have never really understood why it elicits such a strong reaction from some folks. Thanks for stoppping by and commenting, Rachel. Lulu, thanks for commenting. Hi, Matt. Please advise.” Why not just say, “Fix my mouse now, IT slave.”. Thank you for your interesting addition to this discussion that just won’t quit! could you please advise me with names of hotels that are convenient for tourists in the main centre of shanghai or close by. 223+23 sentence examples: 1. F . I commend you for communicating so well in English. I love Pablo’s example at the beginning of the comments: “My mouse is broken. Hi, Aubrey. 3. Just like Wes, when I first joined the corporate world a year ago, I adopted “Please advise” after receiving thousands of email ending in this phrase. Granted not every catchy phrase or term gets an addition to its definition but I’m sure it will at least fall into the “unofficial” usuage. I don't know if I'm reading into this too much but the phrase "please advise" seems to be a passive aggressive way of saying, "you figure this out and let me know what I need to know but don't know how to ask for." I appreciate your taking the time to share the information. Putting all this together, one can arrive at many possible sentences. I wondered if there might be some sort of hidden meaning to it. Eddie, thank you for the hearty laugh. I learned about one of mine when I was visiting an elderly relative and she asked me, both of us standing in the kitchen, "Don’t you ever close a drawer all the way?" Great #leaders realize that they must be a living example of what they would hope their followers would be – in all aspects of their life. Hello, Carol. There is only one thing worse than ‘Please advise’ and that is: What an interesting article – I also stumbled across it after Googling ‘please advise’. Thank you Boss. Which is not a great way to obtain someone’s help via e-mail. 'You may please' is not correct. I was about to use the “please advise” phrase and before I did I decided to google it to see if it was proper since companies we deal with had used it with us before. Devon. Either Monday morning or Thursday afternoon would be most suitable/convenient. For example, Pick up the car any time, at your convenience, or We need that drawing very soon, so please finish it at your earliest convenience.The use of convenience in the sense of … That was last year. If enough people use “please advise” as a standard then sooner or later it’s very meaning will be slightly altered to add-on the way it’s being used. I prefer that limited use. I have just used “Please advise if you have more concern.” in an assignment. Thanks for stopping by. Why don’t you just get over it. These are ones I recommend. I’ve been on the road for about two weeks and during my trip here are just a few of the things that people so kindly did for my convenience… I would not use “Please clarify” unless it fits perfectly. Patrick, thank you for taking the time to write. That’s a good read, i’ll take a few extra seconds to use proper words from now on. Wondering if the sentence was correct, I googled and found this article right away. . I would much rather see the correct, “please advise.”, Tell is such a dull word. Please let me know what works best for you. Some grammar experts say that “Please advise” must have an object after the phrase because advise is a transitive verb. Andygc Senior Member. The amount of comments on this rather old blog entry surprises me. Rampant use of abbreviated phrases such as “Please advise” leads to sloppy, unclear communication. Carmen, I appreciate your thoughtful comment and your cleverness. Hi, DM. The rest of you can pretend that talking to business associates the same way that you would to your wife is good practice. Thanks to you, I learned something new today, and my business correspondence is improved. I would not judge the entire school on one or two messages with mistakes. I understand it is needed in a majority of other situations. From Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English at your earliest convenience at your earliest convenience formal TCM SOON as soon as possible – used in letters We should be grateful if you would reply at your earliest convenience. You may want to try practicing acceptance of expressions such as “to my mind.” People simply get comfortable with certain expressions, just like certain foods, and choose them often. It’s okay to rant now and then, Alison. –Please give me your feedback on . I can understand the frustration when overused but many emails are short, have limited scope, and start or are part of a dialog. 17 Oct 2017. Hello, Peter. This is just an example there are many reason to ask for a meeting none of which are in the question. . "What time would be convenient for you to have me at work?" “please tell me if I can or can not make up yesterday’s exam. I agree that fast-moving email readers need plenty of help to give us the kinds of responses we need. They were all drawers I had "closed.". ; Please advise?? Dear Lynn, 5. BS, please review my alternatives to “please advise.”, You can also use your own language, something like this: Thanks for sharing your appreciation. . I have put up with seeing the phrases ‘Please advise the status of the servers’ or ‘Please advise the attached spreadsheet’ for almost a year now hoping that it would gradually fade out (like signing emails with ‘Cheers’). I use this phrase at the end of e-mails that express the need for assistance. If one is unconsious, they are not doing anything at all. 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